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Review: Agile Development: an Expert Roundtable:

 

Agile Development: an Expert Roundtable

by Barry Burd

Barry Burd interviewed Brian Sletten, Venkat Subramaniam, and David Bock at the No Fluff Just Stuff Java Symposium. The topic of discussion was Agile Development—its underlying philosophy and its applicability in modern software engineering. As you'll discover in reading the interview, he spent much of the time asking for specifics: "Exactly what is agile development?" Of course, the experts responded with the best answer anyone can give me: "A very wide range of practices can be called 'agile'."

Barry Burd (BB): Please introduce yourself to the Java Boutique readers.

Brian Sletten: I'm a software developer with about 12 years of experience. I have my own consulting company in the Washington, DC area called Bosatsu Consulting. I focus on forward-leaning technologies like the semantic Web, grid computing, and aspect-oriented programming. I have a strong background in design and software development, and I've worked in defense, finance, and 3D graphics.

Venkat Subramaniam: I focus on training, mentoring, and consulting through my company, Agile Developer, Inc. I'm an adjunct faculty member in the Computer Science department at the University of Houston. This is my fourth year in the No Fluff Just Stuff Symposium and it's been really fun. I come from a C++ background but I got into Java just about the time it came out. I spent a number of years with Java, and jumped into .NET when it came out. So I speak both .NET and Java fluently. I like both of them (and hate both of them) in a number of ways. Most recently, I've been focusing on agile development, unit testing, and related concepts. I’ve been trying to bring some of those practices to the forefront for my clients.

David Bock: I work for a company in Northern Virginia called FGM, a government contractor with about 260 employees. I'm the Technical Director of the Federal Domain. I work on a number of different projects. The most high profile is an import/export control system funded by the state department funds and given to other countries. I'm also president of the Northern Virginia Java users group. This is my second year with the No Fluff Just Stuff Symposium. My talks focus on architectural issues and on my role an accidental project manager.

BB: What's an accidental project manager?.

David: You're an "accidental project manager" when you get sucked into a project because you're at the right place at the right time (or at the wrong time depending upon how you look at it).

BB: Can you tell me more about the No Fluff Just Stuff symposium?

David: The symposium is a great response to certain trends in the industry. The trends mean less IT funding and less funding for training. Jay Zimmerman (the symposium's founder) noticed that sending people to national technical conferences was becoming increasingly difficult. The conferences were expensive. They took people away from their work during the week. They required travel funds and the quality of the presentations at the conferences wasn't very high.

Jay approached the problem on two fronts. To reduce companies' expenses, he brought his conference to several locations and offered conferences on weekends. He also focused on high quality speakers. And the best thing for us (the speakers) is that the people attending the conference are highly motivated. They give up a weekend to attend, so they ask lots of good questions. They're the cream of the crop among software developers.

BB: Let’s talk about agile development. Are people confused about the meaning of the term "agile development" If so, can you help clarify the term?

Brian: If you look at the factions among the Agile Manifesto signatories, you'll see that they don't agree on 100 percent, or even on 80 percent of the details. But there's coherence around the central idea. Agile development focuses on not getting dogmatic about what you're doing. Get the software up and running, solving the customer's problems and doing so on budget. Whatever it takes to get you to that position is consistent with agile development.

BB: That's not a very specific description of agile development.

Brian: It's loose partly because it's a response to the artifact-centric, process-heavy approaches of the past. One agile approach requires daily ten-minute stand up meetings to shorten problem discovery time. Another approach gets the customer involved very early and very often. Either way, the ultimate goal is to make the problem discovery and resolution phase much shorter.

BB: To what extent is there agreement about the techniques for achieving this goal?

Venkat: I like the analogy of four blind people touching an elephant. One touches the ears, the other one touches the tail, and so on. They all come away with completely different views of what an elephant is. The software community is like those four blind people. Each person develops an idea of what agile development is. There is certainly some ambiguity among practitioners, but there's also a very common theme.

I don’t really care about Extreme Programming or about a specific methodology. A methodology is problematic if, in order to follow that methodology, you can't follow anything else. We have to take an agile approach in following agile methodology itself.

Fundamentally, the goal is to develop an application that meets the customer’s requirements and solves the customer's problems. Make sure the code you write is robust and keep the iteration cycle as short as possible. Iterative and incremental development isn't unique to agile methodology. Rather, iterative and incremental development is a core value in agile methodology.

David: Several years ago there was a big growth spurt at my company. The developers realized that we were had a coordination crisis. We started thinking about more agile development practices. We did a group reading on Pragmatic Programmers, and another group reading on refactoring. So we had a common set of skills for maintaining a code base.

At the same time, we started to see government contracts that required a certain CMM level. CMM (or Capability Maturity Model) is a process-improvement methodology from Carnegie Mellon University. CMM is pretty heavy-weight. It's not agile. But even if CMM isn't agile, it was great to have management behind an effort like that.

I don’t care what the impetus is—whether everybody wants to do Extreme Programming or CMM. Take any group of people who concentrate on ways to work better together. That group will be better than a group of people who don't think about ways of working together. A particular methodology is just the canvas upon which cooperation happens.

CMM is appealing to upper management because it has milestones. You can say, "This group is CMMI Level 2, and that group is CMMI Level 4.” (CMMI is a version of CMM.) It’s nice to have levels, but no group ever accidentally gets to CMMI Level 4. The groups that get CMMI level 2, 3 and 4 are the groups that sit down and figure out how to get the level. They institute all this stuff in order to get assessed at that level. The CMMI level 2 process tells you very precisely what you need to do. There are things in that process that you would not normally be doing.

I’ve been through a CMMI assessment. At my organization, four different groups were assessed. Each involved a half day interview with the practitioners and a half day interview with the managers. All that interviewing is bundled up at the end of a long week. The business is very adversary. The practitioner answers detailed questions. ”Do you have your document of process or your configuration management plan? Where is that document located? Is it under version control?” It’s just a very intrusive kind of nit-picky assessment.

Brian: A CMMI assessment starts by not trusting the organization. The organization proves its knowledge of the process. The organization proves that it has certain capabilities in communication, in documentation, in the creation of artifacts, and in configuration management. But with agile development, you trust the organization as long as the organization delivers. The organization has to prove that it's adding value by delivering software. Agile development says "This is what we want you to do. If you can do it, we don't care how you do it."

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